5th Gen PRNG Help / Info - Latest: RNG Reporter 9.96.5, PPRNG 1.15.0

[Clockenstein]

Unusual question coming through: nine years ago, judging from the last modified timestamps on my RNG Reporter, it looks like I successfully followed this thread / the onsite guide to RNG abuse a 5IV Naive Snivy (non-shiny) from Juniper, and also an Adamant Roggenrola. The thing is, I'm not sure how my 15-year-old self was able to derive my standard seed, since it doesn't seem like I RNG abused a TID/SID (OT looks fairly normal, it's 20131) and then reset the data. My memory of things from then is patchy, but two things I'm fairly sure are true are that this was not a used copy of Black (so I couldn't have used someone else's previous save), and that I hadn't gone farther than Wellspring Cave at most (i.e., the Trio Badge and the C-Gear).

Are there any viable ways to have derived a Pokémon's IVs (and therefore the seed) without possessing a high-level mon for reliable calculation? Even a tedious, harebrained plan of attack, if anyone has a good guess.

The DS used in that method is broken beyond repair now -- I'm working on finding the seed for a replacement DSL at the moment so I can RNG the Larvesta egg gift, but while I'm working on that, I figured I'd ask this question and see if anyone has any guesses what the hell I was cooking nine years ago.

 

[shiny finder]

Are there any viable ways to have derived a Pokémon's IVs (and therefore the seed) without possessing a high-level mon for reliable calculation? Even a tedious, harebrained plan of attack, if anyone has a good guess.

Pokecheck would have still been a thing back then iirc. It's possible you used that to determine your exact IVs or even your SID (or had someone else do it).

 

[Clockenstein]

Pokecheck would have still been a thing back then iirc. It's possible you used that to determine your exact IVs or even your SID (or had someone else do it).

I think the main issue with that solution (and pretty much any solution I can think of) is that it requires this game to save (to enter the GTS) after obtaining a Pokémon, which if data hadn't been reset means saving past the starter choice. At this point I'd like to confirm one thing: does the game save after an IR trade is completed? Saving before IR can be disabled in the options, so if it doesn't save at some point in that process, it seems possible (albeit bizarre and tedious) to theoretically (without saving at any point) beat Striaton Gym, obtain the C-Gear, then initiate an IR trade with another file, sending the starter (since it's the only Pokémon in this hypothetical run on the known initial frame), then spamming Rare Candies / other growth methods on the second save to calculate IVs or otherwise just sending it through Pokécheck there.

If there's no getting around the requirement to save no matter what, then odds are I probably did reset the game, and like you mentioned, used info from Pokécheck to target the exact same TID / SID as the initial save data.

 

[shiny finder]

does the game save after an IR trade is completed?

Couldn't tell you for sure because I didn't test it and and don't remember, but I would be very surprised if it didn't. Every other game has done that and the ramifications otherwise are too big. If this is BW2, then you could have done spinner calibration, which does require a save but not IVs. I misread your original message and thought it was shiny, so your SID is irrelevant here. We'll never know for sure.

 

[Applemaniac]

Hey,

Im a bit clueless as to why I’m unable to successfully rng my first Pokémon. I’m trying hidden grotto abuse and thanks to your tips and a few guides I had hoped I understood how it works… but apparently not. I’ll list what I did:

0) Calibrate 3ds parameters, check a few recent hidden grottos, check daycare
1) clear item/Pokémon inside said grotto, put max repel on, save
2) search seed in PokeFinder, set 3ds to that time
3) use needle calibration method to verify that I am able to hit that exact seed
4) set the correct time again, start game, find no Pokémon inside grotto after 256 steps and leaving/reentering grotto

I repeated step 4 a lot to rule out that I just got lucky on first try of step 3.
Can anyone spot the mistake? I’m on a New Nintendo 3ds XL, Game in German language… Help is much appreciated!

Kind regards

 

[shiny finder]

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Few final things I would suggest: check all the grottos since if your assumption is wrong, this'll never work, try a different seed, make sure you aren't turning on cgear, and exit the grotto after clearing it then go back in and save (double check it's still empty). I've never heard anyone suggest the last thing, but hey it's something different you haven't seemed to have tried. Timer0 is always an option, but I don't spot anything blatantly wrong with your process.